Daniel De Vise has published an excellent article about two-year colleges here. Check it out and leave your comments here!
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CPFA Editor
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it is not necessarily true that graduates of Ivy League schools will make more money, i.e. get more bang for their buck. See the bottom of page 10 in our Community College Journal (http://www.cpfa.org/journal/11spring/cpfa-spring11... -- the article is titled "IVY CHASE: PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS OFFER BEST RETURN ON EDUCATIONAL INVESTMENT" by Kevin A. Hassett. I'd love to reprint this article ...See More in our spring issue . . . editor@cpfa.org
David de Vise, I completely agree with your article, and would like to reprint it in our spring issue. I just posted on the other page a link to an article by Kevin A. Hassett, "IVY CHASE: PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS OFFER BEST RETURN ON EDUCATIONAL INVESTMENT" (http://www.cpfa.org/journal/11spring/cpfa-spring11... see bottom of page 10).
Our publication focuses on two-year colleges, the over-use of contingent faculty, the unconscionable increase of administrators and staff while the numbers of educators and classes offered remain stagnant or decrease. These are abuses that are rampant through the entire higher ed system, including the Ivys, however, and do not speak to comparing 2-year schools to 4-year schools.
But if we are considering the quality of education offered in public schools vs the Ivys, then parents making these decisions should not only consider costs, but also how many contingent faculty teach lower division transfer courses, and what kind of institutional support they receive.
I know of no higher education institution that discloses in its catalog that some classes are taught by full-time professors with office hours, paid prep and grading time and professional development, who will also be on campus for office hours during the week, while other classes will be taught by freeway fliers who grade on their own time and may not be available to your young person to answer any questions or offer any help. This significantly affects the rate of student success.
This is not to say that contingent faculty are poor teachers -- they are not. They are required to have the same qualifications as the professor teaching next door. The institution simply uses these individuals to offer classes on the cheap -- thereby, we believe -- cheating the student of the full service he or she deserves.
Parents should ask hard questions about whether the college they consider uses contingent faculty, and if so, what kind of institutional support they are offered. This varies widely, from excellent support (which is rare), to NO support and unpaid office hours being held in a hallway, in a vehicle, or not at all.
We welcome articles on this topic. Daniel, we have posted links to your article on both of our Facebook pages, CPFA California Part-time Faculty Association, and California Community College Journal.
2 comments:
it is not necessarily true that graduates of Ivy League schools will make more money, i.e. get more bang for their buck. See the bottom of page 10 in our Community College Journal (http://www.cpfa.org/journal/11spring/cpfa-spring11... -- the article is titled "IVY CHASE: PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS OFFER BEST RETURN ON EDUCATIONAL INVESTMENT"
by Kevin A. Hassett. I'd love to reprint this article ...See More in our spring issue . . . editor@cpfa.org
David de Vise, I completely agree with your article, and would like to reprint it in our spring issue. I just posted on the other page a link to an article by Kevin A. Hassett, "IVY CHASE: PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS OFFER
BEST RETURN ON EDUCATIONAL INVESTMENT" (http://www.cpfa.org/journal/11spring/cpfa-spring11... see bottom of page 10).
Our publication focuses on two-year colleges, the over-use of contingent faculty, the unconscionable increase of administrators and staff while the numbers of educators and classes offered remain stagnant or decrease. These are abuses that are rampant through the entire higher ed system, including the Ivys, however, and do not speak to comparing 2-year schools to 4-year schools.
But if we are considering the quality of education offered in public schools vs the Ivys, then parents making these decisions should not only consider costs, but also how many contingent faculty teach lower division transfer courses, and what kind of institutional support they receive.
I know of no higher education institution that discloses in its catalog that some classes are taught by full-time professors with office hours, paid prep and grading time and professional development, who will also be on campus for office hours during the week, while other classes will be taught by freeway fliers who grade on their own time and may not be available to your young person to answer any questions or offer any help. This significantly affects the rate of student success.
This is not to say that contingent faculty are poor teachers -- they are not. They are required to have the same qualifications as the professor teaching next door. The institution simply uses these individuals to offer classes on the cheap -- thereby, we believe -- cheating the student of the full service he or she deserves.
Parents should ask hard questions about whether the college they consider uses contingent faculty, and if so, what kind of institutional support they are offered. This varies widely, from excellent support (which is rare), to NO support and unpaid office hours being held in a hallway, in a vehicle, or not at all.
We welcome articles on this topic. Daniel, we have posted links to your article on both of our Facebook pages, CPFA California Part-time Faculty Association, and California Community College Journal.
Thank you for the great article.
FreeThinker
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